Elline Lipkin wrote an interesting piece recently for Salon.com called “The Mating Game.” 35 and certainly entering the “Ticking Clock” time zone herself, she fled New York for Texas to save herself from becoming “a particular stereotype that I’d sworn never to become: the overanxious, time’s a-tickin’, neurotic single woman over 35 living in New York.” Instead, she found herself suddenly thrust into middle age, since marrying before 30 is not the unknown in Texas that it is in NYC.
So she hit the Net to try her luck, and found herself bombarded with men 10 to 15 years or more older, who suddenly “wanted it all” and were most concerned about the state of her womb and age of her eggs. These guys looked primarily for women under 35. Lipkin writes: “Now that they’d set the goal of getting married, they seemed more than a little surprised (bewildered, in fact) that this was one goal they couldn’t make happen by simply applying their will.” and “I didn’t disavow that someone 10 years older might have something in common with me, but when I met these men, it was rarely the case. Their grizzled hair (or what was left of it), paunchy bellies and lined faces placed them in a life stage that seemed distant from mine—still finding my way into a new career, longing to start down the path to family with someone also navigating the way for the first time.”
Certainly a huge complaint of women who are in the same age range as these over 40, 50 and 60 guys is that the men are looking for much yournger flesh than theres. Who knows, maybe they’ll find it—particularly if they have the assets (ie money) to pay for it. But most men are going to find that like Lipkin, most women 35 and under are looking for guys their own age. Read my earlier blog posting to see what eHarmony’s Neil Clark Warren has to say about the same subject.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Top Dating Sites as measured by ‘Unique visitors”:
In December 2006 --
Total Web users in the U. S. (age 15+) 152,350,000
Personals Total 20,555,000
Yahoo! Personals 4,153,000
Match.com 3,970,000
True.com 3,086,000
Spark Networks 2,504,000
Singlesnet.com 2,173,000
Can’t hurt, right?
“Valentines told to look to archangel for love”
By Natalie Paris and agencies
Last Updated: 7:05pm GMT 13/02/2007
Lonely hearts are being advised by the Catholic Church to consult an archangel to help them find love.
The church is encouraging single people to look to heaven to find their soulmate in the run up to Valentine’s Day tomorrow.
The Catholic Enquiry Office (CEO) is suggesting that, rather than enduring rounds of speed dating to find a partner, people could pray to Saint Raphael, the patron saint of “happy meetings”.
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The saint, one of seven archangels, appears in the Book of Tobit, in the Old Testament part of the Catholic Bible.
The CEO claims that Saint Raphael, who comes to the aid of a woman called Sarah in the bible and sets her up with her spouse Tobias, has been a spiritual friend to generations of singles.
“Many people have testified to the help they have received in finding a life partner through the prayerful help of the archangel,” said Monsignor Keith Barltrop, CEO director.
“At this time of year, significant numbers are seeking someone special, or maybe dealing with recent heartbreak. Saint Raphael is there to help.”
He added: “If something is for our good and happiness, then God will answer our prayers as we ask.”
Although certain that every prayer would be answered, Monsignor Barltrop admitted that the results might not always be what is expected.
“You might be praying for a tall, dark and handsome person to come into your life, or a beautiful brunette, but God may have prepared someone quite different but wonderful for you,” he explained.
“Prayerfully ask him, and find out for yourself.”
Here’s more info about St. Raphael.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
From The New York Times, 2/26/2007:
Drilling Down
On Niche Dating Sites, Many More Women
By ALEX MINDLIN
During the week of Feb. 5, men and women visited online dating Web sites in nearly equal numbers, according to Hitwise, which measures online traffic. And to look at the 10 most popular sites not directed toward gay people, you might think that every dating site on the Internet was rigorously gender-balanced. All but one of the 10 largest sites came within 10 percentage points of being evenly split.
But among the smaller dating Web sites, many were drastically skewed. SeniorPeopleMeet, the 41st most popular site, had 80.8 percent women. BBW Datefinder, for “big beautiful women and admirers,” was No. 63, and had 76.3 percent women; and Catholic Match, No. 81, had 72 percent.
“It is a problem for them,” said Bill Tancer, general manager of global research at Hitwise. “It’s like any market; you want an equal number of buyers and sellers.”
But Greg Waldorf, the chief executive of eHarmony, the sixth most popular site and one with 68.6 percent women visitors, begged to differ. “If you asked me would I rather have more women or men, I’d rather have more women. If you have a good healthy population of women, I think men are attracted to that.” ALEX MINDLIN
My comment about this article that I posted on Mark Brooks’ Online Personals Watch
“If you asked me would I rather have more women or men, I’d rather have more women. If you have a good healthy population of women, I think men are attracted to that.” Well, duh! Yes, it’s good news for dating sites who want to increase their memberships, and great for guys who want easier pickings. But it is disaster for women, particularly those in the older age ranges, when the numbers are skewed enough as it is.
It’s so important that this kind of information (the gender ratios on sites) becomes available. Sites like eHarmony and Chemistry appeal to women because the are more “passive,” in that the site does the work of the matching and women do not need to put themselves so much on the line. What women don’t understand is that the numbers are so bad for them.
Openness and transparency (big buzz words nowadays) would go a long ways with Internet dating. Keeping women happy and on dating sites will be key to success. If all singles understood the gender ratios and the paid vs. unpaid numbers, then they could pick sites that would be most likely to work for them. The gender ratios would balance out, singles would get more responses to their emails, more matches would be made, customers would be happier, which would be great advertising, and dating sites would get more business. What could be better?
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
If you lie, cheat, or mislead people via Internet dating (or if you are concerned that someone will do it to you), you need to go on over to http://www.playersnitch.com/ and see the newest trend: reporting on who did what, with pictures, sceen names, and even full reports with identifying information. I wrote about dontdatehimgirl.com earlier, which is a similar site.
Playersnitch seems less catty and maybe less likely to be abused by folks who are just mad about a relationship gone bad. I liked the reporting style—a whole list of possible sins: See list below this posting. I was impressed frankly by the “restraint” of the reporters. I think that the reporting style the site uses encourages preciseness and not just angry blasts.
The owner of the site sent me a video posted on YouTube that you might want to check out—to see if you are pictured, or anyone you are dating. I looked up some of the screen names of those identified as posting on Match.com. Some were still there, using the same screen name.
So fair warning: If you lie, cheat or behave badly, more and more ways are springing up for your behavior to be reported. If you don’t want your name and picture appearing on one of these sites, then keep your behavior impeccable.
It’s becoming clearer and clearer that lying and bad behavior brings daters no advantage at all, and in fact, is destructive to the liar themselves. Your best defense is absolute honesty, above-board, kind and responsible behavior. And insist on the same from others.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Married
In a relationship
Last relationship is not over
Only wants sex
Dates multiple people
Sleeps with multiple people
Lies about age
Lies about height
Lies weight
Lies about body type
Lies about grey or balding hair
Lies about having children
Lies about employment status
Lies about financial security
Lies about where they live
Lies about health
Lies about smoking
Lies about drinking
Lies about drug use
Lies about what they are seeking
Lies about education
Posted old or misleading photos
Overly secretive
Is moody
Has a bad temper
Is a control freak
Is overly jealous
Will not commit to a relationship
Is an active alcoholic
Is a drug addict
Stalking
Cyber stalking
Threatening
Is physically violent
Steals money or property
Commits fraud for personal gain
Forges signatures or documents
Improperly transfers assets to self
Sexual assault
Claim of sexual interference by a child
Couples find romance, wedding bells on the Web
By Ann Marie Ames
Gazette staff
MILTON-Today, Beth and Ryan Krenke will celebrate their first Valentine’s Day as a married couple.
And Ryan insists neither he nor his wife is a dirty old man.
The Krenkes met in March 2005 through the online dating service eHarmony.com.
Some might think that Internet hookups involve creepy old men or “cyber geeks who are locked to their computer,” Ryan said.
He thinks the opposite is true.
“There are a lot of normal people out there,” said Ryan, 33. “It’s actually becoming pretty stylish or chic to date online.”
Ryan and Beth Krenke met through the online dating service eHarmony.com. The two married last fall and moved to Milton.
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Beth, a 29-year-old dental hygienist, was motivated to try online dating when she grew tired of her friends setting her up on dates “just because the guy was single.”
Ryan turned to eHarmony because a former job kept him on the road most of the year. He hadn’t had a chance to set down roots before he took his current job at TDS Telecom in Middleton, he said.
Beth had been online for about nine months and Ryan about four when they met. They’d each had one bad date with another Internet match before meeting for dinner and bowling in April 2005.
“I was pleasantly surprised that she was a good date,” Ryan teased.
Ryan popped the question in a horse-drawn carriage in downtown Chicago the next December. The two were married in September and moved to Milton shortly after.
Beth attributes the couple’s success to strict personality surveys that singles take when they sign up for eHarmony.com, as well as a modest charge to use the service.
“You have to fill out a lot of questions. It takes quite a while, but the honesty really comes out,” Beth said. “Plus, if people aren’t really interested, they are not going to pay the money.”
The survey took some of the pressure off the first date, the Krenkes said.
“A lot of stuff is already established before the first date,” Beth said. “You have some background.”
Ryan cited one downfall to knowing your date before you meet him or her.
“You’ve already talked about things like knowing you want kids,” Ryan said. “So you don’t have the excuse to end the date early if it’s bad.”
‘I didn’t want to do it’
Michael Boyd wasn’t a collector when he logged onto a collector’s chat room in 1996.
But he found a keeper.
Michael and Tammy Boyd met through an Internet chatroom eight years ago. The Footville couple eventually married and have two daughters.
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Boyd of Dumfries, Va., married Tammy Boyd, formerly Tammy Rein of Palmyra, on August 15, 1998. It was the couple’s fourth date.
Eight years and two daughters later, the Footville couple are still in awe of the slim chance they had to find each other online, chat for two years and fall in love.
Michael, now 32, was 22 and shy when his father convinced him to try to meet a girl online.
“I didn’t want to do it. I thought I’d meet some 900-pound woman and have to marry her!” Michael said.
But meeting girls in person was even more intimidating. Temporarily paralyzed in a car accident at age 16-he was clinically dead for a short time on the operating table-Michael walked with a limp, and his arm didn’t function well.
When he and Tammy started chatting, he told her right away about his condition.
“I didn’t want her to think I was a regular guy,” Michael said. “I didn’t want to surprise her.”
He also asked her right away for her phone number, which she refused to give up.
“It was March of 1996,” said Tammy, 31. “I didn’t know much about the Internet. I just knew you shouldn’t be giving your number out to strange people.”
Six months later, Michael confessed he was in love. But Tammy still wouldn’t give up her number.
“I wasn’t having any of that from a guy from the Internet!” she wrote The Janesville Gazette.
In spring 1997, Tammy realized that she, too, was in love. The couple’s first date was a trip to New Orleans that summer.
Tammy’s parents insisted that Michael come to Wisconsin first to meet the family before “their little girl” could go across country with him.
He fit right in.
“They had this dog, Spike, that bit everybody,” Michael said, grinning. “Her mom said she knew I was the one when Spike didn’t bite me.”
I’ve been a psychotherapist for 30 years and now a Romance Coach for 5, and the hardest personality styles for me to understand (and then explain to my clients) are character disorders. We all have a tendency to assume that others are like us, and since even author Martha Stout would agree that 96% of people are NOT sociopaths, then our assumption is understandable. Most of us (that 96%) have a sense of right and wrong and a conscience that guide our behavior. 4% of us do not, and because of that, the rest of us are pretty easy prey.
Sociopaths are the very people singles do NOT want to get mixed up with. Some of them are easy to identify and avoid—they may be sociopaths, but they are not very skilled and end up getting found out, maybe even being put in jail. But bright, talented sociopaths can be very successful, can even get elected to some of the most powerful positions in the world. And a skilled sociopath can wreak havoc on a vulnerable singles. Just look at the press scammers are getting with their tricks do get money from people they meet on dating sites.
Martha Stout’s book “The Sociopath Next Door” is a fantastic layman’s guide to the sociopathic personality, and better yet, how to recognize one. Even with all my years in the business, I learned from this book. And you can too. We all ought to have this knowledge in our repertoire, but especially if you are single and looking for a life partner. Put this book on your “Must read” list, and then read it.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
I just finished THE most interesting book I have read in a long time: “Self-Made Man” by Norah Vincent. The subtitle says it all: “One Woman’s Journey into Manhood and Back.”
Vincent mastered male disguise and surreptitiously made her way into one traditional males-only bastion after another, all the way from a men’s bowling league and strip joints to a Catholic monastery and a Rober Bly-style men’s group. And not once for each of these venues, but over and over and over again.
Both female and lesbian, Vincent was a double outsider in these all-male and mostly heterosexual groups. Her struggles to master male dress and behavior (and subsequent constant fear of discovery of her female-ness) and her constant surprises as her experiences of these men belied her expectations made for fascinating reading.
Interestingly, Vincent used Internet dating for her forays into heterosexual love (if you can call a lesbian masquerading as a man, trying to date women, as heterosexual love). The Internet part is rater incidental to Vincent’s main point that dating and love, which she thought would be the easiest for her as a man, were the hardest. You’ll have to read the book to find out why.
As a Romance Coach working with heterosexuals who are trying to meaningfully connect with each other, I found “Self-Made Man” a page-turner, and am almost ready to say it is a “must-read” for all my clients, female and male. Vincent’s attempts to span the gender gap, her struggles to fit in, and the realization that she never would, plus her guilt and discomfort with being in disguise and essentially fooling these often endearing men, made for riveting reading. I think this book can definitely help women understand men better, and interestingly, men have more understanding for women. Plus help both to gain an increased appreciation for the “unbridgeable gap” between the two. Five chocolate dipped strawberries!
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
From a story on Internet scamming on WCBSTV.com:
… for Julia Abrantes, it was her heart that was stolen, and her wallet wasn’t far behind. “At the end of the day he got about $650 from me,” she said. She found what she thought was the love of her life online after just two months of Internet dating.
But there were warning signs the whole way that her lover was not the man he said he was. “We call it scammer grammar because although they say they’re from the U.S. their writing is atrocious, the words they are using are totally false,” Abrantes says.
Another tell tale sign he’s only looking to empty your bank account: he describes himself as Native American when trying to tell you he was born in the United States, and can’t answer basic questions about his profile—like he lives in Los Angeles but doesn’t know anything about the L.A. Dodgers.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Trufina.com: Prove you are you with a free Trufina ID Card Share your Trufina ID anytime you need to prove your identity online
Here’s how the Trufina site says you can use it’s services for online dating.
Intelius.com: Background Check By Social Security Number
Background Check Includes: Criminal report, sex offender check, lawsuits, judgments, liens, bankruptcies, home value & property ownership, 30 year address history, relatives & associates, neighbors, marriage records, and more.
You can view a sample report by clicking a link on the Intelius site.
The Corra Group This service does background checks for businesses, but will also do searches for individual uses.
Also, don’t forget to Google your date’s name, or do a search on MySpace, remembering that many people may share the same name. I just searched my name on MySpace and got five girlie’s, some of them pretty young.
If you live in the Pittsburg, PA, area, you can check out the website maintained by the Allegheny County Sheriff’s Department to catch dead-beat parents.
Here’s a chilling story that sounds like entrapment, but falls in the murky gray area of the law. Men all over the country were taken in by ads on Craig’s list that sounded like a young woman looking for a sexy, good time, but were actually written by a man. Nude photos of the guys along with identifying information were posted on a now-defunct website called craiglist-perverts. Spouses and employers were also notified of the men’s online activities.
Be very, very careful what you put out there into cyberspace. Remember, you do not know who these people are!
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Ever since I started working to help singles find love using the Internet, I have been astounded at the numbers of people who get impatient at the process and try to hurry it along or quit altogether. “Three emails and then meet for coffee or I am done.” “I met three different guys and they all lied about their age, so I pulled my profile.”
Folks who rush the process are depriving themselves of one of the chief advantages of meeting online: The ability (if you use it) to prescreen potential dates.
Because you get information via a person’s online dating profile that you would seldom get before a traditional date with a relative stranger, and because you are meeting online rather than in real time and space, you can study what the other presents, ask questions, look for gaps or inconsistencies, and read the lines as well as between them. You can learn a lot by what and how a person writes, as well as what they don’t. And all without dealing with the nerves and worries of a first date.
You are bound to waste a lot of time (and drink a lot of coffee) if you move too fast from first contact to first “real time and space” meeting. You could also be inviting trouble. Move gradually, starting with emails through the website, then through a safe email address (Have you set up a Yahoo! or Hotmail email account that is not traceable to you? You can email me for instructions on how to do so). Then, phone contact: Use a cell phone, block your phone number using *67, or set up an anonymous phone number (see my blog piece on how to do so)
We all have the responsibility to prove that we are normal, real and truthful people to potential dates—and they have that responsibility to us, too. Regular, predictable contact over time will allow you both to build trust—or not.
From Your Romance Caoch, Kathryn Lord
Via an article on Time.com:
..thanks to Vumber you can get many numbers with only one phone — and even numbers from more desirable area codes. You can be reached at a New York City number one minute and L.A. the next, or small-town Alabama, where you really live. If the person dialing one of the numbers turns out to be a less than desirable caller, poof! the number disappears with a few keystrokes. “You can vanish without a trace,” said Geoff Schneider, executive vice president of Vumber.
Vumber is free for the first 100 minutes, then $4.95 for the first month. then $9.95. You can also buy packages of minutes, but with the way singles tend to talk on the phone, a monthly plan sounds best to me.
I have a client who lives in New Jersey but would like to date women in Manhattan. This could give him a Manhattan phone number, though the cheat wouldn’t work forever.
Match.com offers Matchtalk, which uses Jangl’s technology. MatchTalk was offered for free, but will soon be a $6.99 per month add-on to a Match.com membership.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Here’s a letter to Dr. Joyce Brothers from the Seattle Times:
DEAR DR. BROTHERS: I started talking to this guy on a dating site on the Internet. At first, I didn’t think I would like him or meet him or anything like that, so I gave him the standard pack of lies about myself. I mean, I lied about my age, my weight, my name, my education and other facts you don’t want to tell a stranger. But now, after a month of chatting together, we are about to meet. It turns out I am very interested in him, based on similar interests and hobbies we have (these I didn’t fake). Should I confess about my lies before we meet, or just surprise him?—M.C.
DEAR M.C.: Before we deal with your upcoming meeting, I’d like to talk a little bit about giving strangers on a dating site a “standard pack of lies” about yourself. I think it is wise not to reveal things like real names, phone numbers, addresses or employers to just anyone, and I’m glad you are prudent. But you should use the type of dating site where you can feel comfortable telling the truth about your age, weight and hair color—in other words, one where there isn’t a lot of pressure to present yourself as looking a certain way.
It sounds as though your incipient friendship is not based on those things you lied about, but on the hobbies and activities you might enjoy together. That’s excellent—and if your new friend can get past the fact that you lied about the other things, it sounds as though you might have a chance to develop a real relationship. But be prepared for him to be disappointed or even angry—especially if he didn’t lie to you. Tell him now, so you can meet on an even playing field.
Standard pack of lies??? Is their a pack of lies that is “STANDARD” nowadays? This woman should fess up, apologize for her caddish behavior, and beg forgiveness. And the guy should NOT agree to meet her, if he cares about his future, at all.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
A tool to estimate what your Sweetie could be worth, or at least his/her house: Go to Zillow.com and plug in the address. Zillow will make an estimate, based on sales prices for houses in the area.
Caveat: Zillow.com could not find the house we just sold in Mississippi, but did find our house in Tallahassee, with a pretty close and realistic value.
What Zillow does NOT show is what is owed on the house (mortgages, etc). Or whether the resident actually owns the house. But the market value has some interest.
Read here how one single used Zillow to check out her Sweetheart.
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
Here are seven tips for “Compatibility in Lesbian Dating Relationships” listed by Lavender Liaisons, a personalized lesbian matchmaking service for the Greater Bay Area:
Tip #1: First of all state your intentions up front and be honest about them.
Tip #2: Don’t jump into the sex dance too soon.
Tip #3: Develop excellent communications and negotiating skills.
Tip #4: Outline your deal breakers are from the beginning and talk about them.
Tip #5: Don’t carry your old baggage into your new relationship.
Tip #6: Learn to deal with jealousy and insecurity.
Tip #7: Figure out what “type” of lesbian you are and what you are attracted to and then make sure your types are compatible.
#1 - 6 look perfectly fine for gays or straights, and probably #7 too. My Sweetie is a guy who couldn’t care less about spectator sports or sailing around the world, and that is fine with me. Guess how many women I talk to who despair about men looking for a “first mate”—the boating type?
From Your Romance Coach, Kathryn Lord
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